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FETA, the Forth Road Bridge authority recently distributed flyers to local residents advising them of two upcoming public meetings designed to discuss the work required to replace the bearings on the bridge’s approach viaducts; a contract that was recently awarded to Balfour Beatty. that was announced at the end of February.

On Monday the 15th of March, the first meeting will be held at the Forth Road Bridge Administration office in South Queensferry and the following evening on the 16th of March it will be held in the Queensferry Hotel in North Queensferry. Both meetings are open to all and scheduled to start at 7p.m. with refreshments provided.

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The Queensferry and District Community Council are reported to have stated that the proposed use of the existing Forth Road Bridge as a dedicated public transport corridor would actually make journey times between Edinburgh and Fife slower. This is because the new routes would have a number of traffic light controlled junctions (up to 6) that would delay buses from re-joining the main route back into Edinburgh or Fife. The powers that be, however suggest that with correct prioritising of signals for public transport, then this isn’t really an issue. It does seem slightly odd though, that what currently is a road straight through onto the bridge at either end cannot continued to be used by buses with slipways directly onto the M90 in the North and the A90 in the South.

In addition to the story above, The Scotsman has also recently run a story that a National infrastructure bank is needed to raise and control finances on the Forth Replacement Crossing project.

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It’s all gone a bit quiet the last few weeks on the bridge front. But here is the pick of what’s arrived over the last week or so.

Extra-wide hard shoulders are due to add millions on to the cost for the new bridge. Not quite sure why this hasn’t been revealed before, although it sounds like it’s in the costings already – it just happens to be much more expensive hard shoulders than other bridges of it’s kind. This was countered by an equally vague news story claiming that the British chamber of commerce has estimated that the £1.6billion (although estimates are now much higher) spend on the new bridge would rake in around £6billion of benefits to the economy.

The current old bridge has come under the spotlight again, with the announcement that £7m is to be spend testing and assessing the condition of it’s anchorages reports The Scotsman. This comes very recently after we heard from the BBC that a further £13.6m will be spend replacing bearings on both approaches to the bridge. These bearings are crucial in allowing the bridge to ‘move’ during seasonal variations in temperature. It does seem slightly curious however that such work is seen as a priority, as the previous bearings have lasted several decades – whereas these potentially only have a few years of heavy use (they are not scheduled to complete till 2013, by which time construction on the new bridge should be well underway).

I also found a very interesting objection lodged by a local static gear fisherman against the proposed bridge. The objection references three commercial fishing operations that operate in the Forth Estuary around the site of the bridge. According to the objection, he catches lobster, crabs and whelks and his primary fishing area of Beamer Rock will be directly underneath the new bridge, meaning that his commercial operation will be directly affected.

For a government agency, Transport Scotland seems remarkably in touch with ‘new media’. You’ll imagine my surprise when I discovered that it has a twitter feed, that it’s been happily posting comments on since last October. Nothing too interesting generally, just a set of headlines followed by a TWURL URL to a more formal news page on it’s website. Actually, maybe it’s just my ignorance – I just found an STV feed too.

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The replacement Forth crossing is proposed to be located upstream of the existing Forth Road Bridge and will run at around a ten degree offset to the current bridge in the South Westerly direction. That means, while roughly parallel to the existing bridge, it’s Southern side will be substantially further West of the current bridge than the Northern side is.

At it’s Northern landfall on the South shores of Fife, it will be very close to the existing bridge, just West of The Queensferry Hotel. In the South, it will land much further west of the current bridge on the edge of South Queensferry, coming in just to the west of Port Edgar marina and the Clufflats residential area, right on top of Inchgarvie House. A large junction is proposed around the site of the current Echline corner turn-off from the A904 Builyeon road.

A map showing the proposed position of the bridge is shown below. This was reproduced from the original maps available from the Transport Scotland Information Centre

Proposed route for new Forth Road Bridge

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On the 29th of January, during a parliamentary question and answer session, George Foulkes asked how much consultation has occurred between the Forth Replacement Crossing team (i.e. Transport Scotland) and the local communities. The following table was presented as a record of meetings:

Event Topic/Purpose Date
Queensferry & District CC Presentation on the Forth Replacement Crossing Study September 2007
Introductory briefing April 2008
Project update September 2008
Managed Crossing Strategy briefing January 2009
Briefing on amendments to roads and junctions (with Queensferry Business Association) March 2009
Landscaping and mitigation briefing (with Queensferry Business Association) June 2009
Project update – noise, traffic, Ferrymuir amendments and forthcoming activity November 2009
Port Edgar Marina Introductory briefing June 2008
Port Edgar Yacht Club Project update February 2009
Queensferry Ambition Introductory briefing April 2008
Queensferry Business Association Presentation on the Forth Replacement Crossing Study September 2007
Introductory briefing April 2008
Project update September 2008
Managed Crossing Strategy briefing January 2009
Briefing on amendments to roads and junctions (with QDCC) March 2009
Landscaping and mitigation briefing (with QDCC) June 2009
Queensferry Vision Introductory briefing April 2008
Project update September 2008
Clufflats Residents Representatives Project update September 2008
Managed Crossing Strategy briefing January 2009
Clufflats Residents Landscaping, mitigation and construction briefings June 2009
Project update November 2009
Dundas Home Farm Residents Managed Crossing Strategy briefing April 2009
Project update – landscaping and mitigation July 2009
Project update – landscaping and mitigation October 2009
Echline Corner Consultative Alliance Project update October 2009
Project update November 2009
Echline Residents Landscaping, mitigation and construction briefings June 2009
Project update October 2009
Inchgarvie Residents Landscaping, mitigation and construction briefing June 2009
Project update December 2009
Linn Mill Residents Association Introductory briefing April 2008
Project update June 2008
Project update September 2008
Managed Crossing Strategy briefing January 2009
Landscaping and mitigation briefing July 2009
Society Road Residents Landscaping, mitigation and construction briefing June 2009
Project update November 2009
Springfield Residents Landscaping, mitigation and construction briefing June 2009
Project update November 2009
Scoutstoun Park Residents Association Project update November 2009

Source: Scottish Parliament, 2009.

A follow up question asked about the status of listed buildings in the area and whether any of those with listed status would have that status changed. While the answer was that no listed buildings would have that status changed, a fair number of buildings would be impacted upon by the replacement Forth bridge. These include:
- St. Margaret’s Hope
- Ferry Craig
- Dalmeny Church
- Inchgarvie House

St. Margaret’s Hope arch will need to be dismantled and relocated.

The full transcript can be seen on the website

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Two stories by the news outlets both local and national. First up, is the STV report that West Lothian Council has formally objected to the crossing. They quote the Executive Councillor for Transport as saying: “The council executive approved the submission of an objection to the Forth Crossing Parliamentary Bill to protect the community of Newton against the predicted increase of traffic resulting from the construction of the planned bridge and its surrounding road infrastructure”. The local Bo’Ness paper also runs this report.

Certainly this has been one of the pressing concerns regarding the new Forth crossing. The lack of a direct link to the M9, will almost certainly mean people will take the shortcut across country to junction 2 of the M9 at Old Philpstoun. Route to M9 from replacement forth crossing The current proposed route takes in the M9 spur/old A8000 route, but this is a long circular way round. Why can’t a route be drawn directly South to link with the M9 with a new junction to the North-East of Winchburgh?

The local papers have also recently reported on the announcement of further commercial and residential development at Ferrymuir. The Forth bridges business park developments was previously earmarked as commercial development only, but the planning permission has been changed to also allow residential development. This would also include a sports complex, a care home and a community facility together with new homes and offices.

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The Forth Replacement Crossing project has officially started with the introduction of a bill to parliament in November 2009. It makes the case for building a replacement road bridge to run parallel to the existing bridge, which would be made available to public transport and non-motorised users only. As the name suggests, the bridge is intended as a replacement for the old bridge which is straining under it’s current load of traffic. As a result it is not designed to be any ‘bigger’ carrying just four carriageways much like the current bridge (although there will be hard shoulders that could also be utilised for public transport or emergencies).

I am a resident in South Queensferry and as a result have a keen interest in the goings on surrounding the new bridge upon which work will commence in the coming years. While the local community as a whole is divided in opinion, both for and against the bridge, I will try to cover any developments from a neutral though skeptical angle. I will occasionally allow myself to post my own views and thoughts, but in general the onus will be to report on the developments and question the decision making of the interested parties.

Clearly with work not yet having started, there will not be an awful lot to blog on in the near future. However I intend to start work on the design of this blog and also post some details derived from the official government documents that have been posted. Already, there is a mass of consultation papers, artists impressions and proposals that any sane person should not need to wade through – so hopefully I can distil the main points here for all our benefit.

Whatever your involvement is with the Forth Replacement Crossing – if you have something you wish to share with the readers of this blog, then please feel free to contact me by leaving a comment on the blog and I will be in contact. All contributions are welcome.

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